Just like he promised, huh ?

The numbers are fixed. The true rate is 14.7%
http://www.bls.gov/

oh yeah...those numbes are really something to brag about...are you serious? I have to wonder how many of those newly employed are taking jobs at minimum wage and have no health insurance coverage offered...and if the job does offer health insurance...it is a watered down version of it compared to 3 years ago. High deductibles, no covergage for spouse and children...etc. I am older now and don't have the same concerns of the young families...but can you imagine working at minimum wage and then not having your job pay for the health insurance for you ''and'' your family? Can you imagine? Can you? Welcome to what Obama has done to health care on the workplace. Obama is responsible for the attitude of employers to think: ''Why should employers offer to cover the spouse and kids now that Obama is now requiring all youth to have coverage or soon be IRS criminals with huge fines piling up''? It used to be the kids of today mainly had to worry about the debt of a Guranteed Student Loan...just wait till they have to deal with the IRS about Health Insurance. Not to mention the preditory credit practices put upon them. How can you brag about this man as President? What a failure he has been. He's like the worker you hire that you paid in advance, and then just dissappears and you never see him again. Wake up. Vote Democrat if you want to...but for Christ's sake...don't vote for Obama. Romney was not my GOP choice, but he deserves the chance. I beleive in him more than I did at first.

Look around, what world are you residing to believe it's even close to 8%???
You really need a manipulated jobs report to inform you??

They've changed the way unemployment is recorded throughout the years, in reality, it's probably closer to 30%+++

www.shadowstats.com/

Bruce, your bogus BLS comment is hogwash.

You give Republicans a bad name, just like birthers do.

Watts - The employment news was mixed. Mostly part time jobs, lots of young people so analysts believe a lot of the jobs are campaign related and thus temporary and the overall number impacted by so many dropping out of the employment hunt.

(1) "Some 582,000 more Americans, the most since February 2009, were working part-time last month because of slack business conditions or because those jobs were the only work they could find, according to Labor Department estimate." Mixed picture since most of the uptick was part time.

See, http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-05/gain-in-part-time-work-pushes-u-s-joblessness-to-three-year-low.html

(2) Too many have stopped looking

"Moreover, whereas the headline unemployment rate has dropped from 8.5% to 7.8% this year, if there were the same number of people looking for work today, as there were in December 2011, the unemployment rate would have only dropped from 8.5% to 8.35% today."

In sum, nothing to be proud of. Obama made a HUGE mistake focusing on healthcare insurance reform before focusing on housing and JOBS. Sure, healthcare costs was and is a big concern for businesses but Obamacare doesn't help.

However, I also blame Congress because of the Fiscal Cliff AND before the Senate hasn't offerred a budget in years.

Washington is broken so cannot blame the President for everything, but he made a lot of mistakes so deserves part of the blame.

hmmm....the rise in the stock market...hmmm...let's stop and think how that has helped some of us. Sorry...my mind is a blank. ''Tell me'' how that so called fact is relevant to most of us? Go ahead and tell us. The only thing it matters to is those who make money on the stockmarket. In real life..it has done nothing to restore the losses than many of us took on our 401K's. The ''huge'' losses we took. Funny how they can brag about the great condition of the stock market (''bs'' is what I say)...but, to those of us that ...for example had a 401K worth a ''significant amount''...get reduced by ''at least'' 75% of it original value...and now that ''the stock market is good (ha ha)''...our 401K are still at their low amounts and those loses we suffered are ''gone forever''. We lost 90% of the value of ours, and ''were lucky' to cash in the remainder before it was ''all'' gone...and then had to pay the 20% early cash in penalty on top of that. Some ''luck'' that was. Just like Obama..it was insult to injury.

''My house'' was more or less ''my stock market'', other than our 401K. I ''know'' I speak for many on this. I don't have the house anymore...I sold it in Kansas to finance my move down here...and believe me...we were not able to buy anywhere near as nice of a house as we had or hoped with the money we got out of it. Despite that, we love the ''humble home'' we bought compared to what we had...but that is because we moved here...and it is a wonderful place to live. We had to sell the house at a ''huge'' loss. Like ''so many others of us'' who are now ''upside down in their house''...and...''better stock'' market or not that you have the gall tpo brag about...the value lost on homes is permanent. During Obama's term....many of us have seen not only the terrible loss in the equity of our homes, but also suffered nearly total loss of life's savings tied up in 401K's. Allhe had done is cost me money. The saying, ''money saved is money earned'' has been turned into a joke by Obama.
Go tell that ''major rise in the stock market'' crud someplace else...I don't think many want to hear it.

People tend to forget how devalued the dollar is compared to previous years so the market tends to look better than normal. The way they've inflated the money supply the past 10 years, the numbers you see via the market should look good compared to yesteryears, but it's a farce.

CJ, if you were wise, you would stop giving your money to those people and start investing in a real currency, IE: precious metals. If you cannot afford Gold, purchase some Silver.............unless it's 1933 and you are a chump, they cannot take your real money as they did the fiat trash.

Samuel, Good advice...but during the last 15-20 years we spent building up our 401K through our jobs...I don't beleive ''investing in gold'' was part of the company plan. I don't whether that option was offered much anywhere...but it is still good advice. During that time period many jobs offered matching funds..it all sounded good at the time....but it certainly did not turn out good for many of us. by the time most of us smartened up...it was too late. It should have been a crime the way companies let our funds get eaten alive....but the way the laws were...it was up to us to know what was going on. Like many, the stock market is something few of us really know that much about...almost akin to gambling. We don't have any 401K's anymore. Ours was run thru the benefits group that handeled the 401K's and knowing what was going on with them was pretty much a mystery and over the heads of most people..including us. I'm not that short, either.

I'm calling you (cj) a RACIST. Now I'm part of the 47% this Scumney dude is talking about. I have two jobs don't look for handout from anybody. I know under that character we might as well jump off the bridge now. I CAN SAY THAT I AM BETTER OFF NOW THAN 4 yrs ago when stupid a** bush wa in the office. I Voted for OBAMA in 08 and Will Vote for OABMA in 12. Scumney will never get vote from me or anyone else in my party even if he's the only LIER to vote for. Bye RACIST

To whoever it is who calls themself ''Obama 2012''. first of all, that is a dumb thing to use as a user name. All it does along with a reply like yours is name you as part of the 47%. I knew someone like you would show up and do just what I asked people to not do...call me a ''racist''. I knew there would be at least one who did it anyway. Pretty lame comeback to what I said. My observations were out there for anyone else to see that was there also. You help make the point the lack of blacks there suggest racism, but by whom??You sound more like a paid 47%'er. I know what a racist is. I'm not. I suggest you learn that bringing up the points I did, does not make a person a racist. This is a blog. It's for discussion. If you can't join in on one without getting all bent out of shape, then you need to find different mediums to be a hater at. You are rediculous, and a shining example of the type of mentality that is the most emminent danger that exists to our country...you separate us from within. The divide and conquer tactic is one of the most succesfull ones ever used to bring down advisaries. It will be a sad day on earth when the day comes the the USA is not the nation the rest of the world still looks up to. Are you happy knowing that you aid that happening? Perhaps what you really need to understand is the term ''reverse discrimination''. Obama and many of his 47% can teach it to you by example, and you apparantly are learning it very well. Go jump in a lake.

..to Obamanation 2012...you say you are better off than you were 4 years ago? Liar yourself...back to ya. If I am wrong, then I wish I could pat you on the back and worship the ground you walk on...because I have not met anyone in 4 years that can say what you did. I am not going to brag about Romney. He has not proved anything yet. If he wins, then if he does not make dramatic improvement...then he will need to go ''also''. One and done. ''That'' is where Obama is...his ''community planner'' experience has not been enough. We, as people of the USA, need to ''quit'' giving a second term of President to ''any'' canidate that does not perform his job better. I know..it is a hard task to tackle..but we have to ''demand'' that ''whoever'' is in office...get er done. No excuses about gridlock, etc. I did not vote for Obama, but I certainly was not impressed with McCain. When Obama won...I gave him a chance. He has failed very badly. Our standards have to be raised and not give second terms unless deserved. Romney is growing on me, but if he wins..he will have the same thing to prove that Obama did. Voting for Obam again is like hiring the contractor a second time after he already ripped you off on another job. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Romney deserves a chance. We could use a suavy, tough businessman right now...not a community planner. Send Obama back to Revernd White, where is heart really is anyway.

Lynda, with due respect your explanation for the housing bubble bursting ''is not'' because of GOP policies. The leniant loan practices of Fannie, etc were ''liberal'' ideas that banks were more or less forced to comply with. If you let the banks do business like they want, I promise you there will be less foreclosures, because they simply won't loan money to people who they feel are risky. Even though these practices are now more under control (it's harder to get a house loan now) there are other loan practices governed by liberal input such as car loans and credit cards. Just about ''anyone'' can get lots of credit cards and new car loans. In essense, the same ''bubble'' that hit the housing market is ''only getting started''. It is no secret the country is buried in credit card , and car loan deabt. Many people should have never been granted the credit in the first place. Democrats just simple don't get it that Obama wants precisely that type of situation to prove our sytem is not working, and his direction of more socialistic control is better. Free enterprise, if allowed to work the way it is supposed to, will let those people who fail in business...to do just that...fail. Then it leaves a space open for someone else to step in and take their place. Obama's leadership doesn'tt let people fail. It rewards those who fail and gives them more chances. It is not fair to those of us who make things work right the correct way, by being successful.

Also, Lynda...you simply are not correct that 401K have recovered. They may be working again, but only for the new people adding the new fresh funds into them. Those who lost 75% or more of the original amounts are not ''instantly'' getting the losses replaced. That money is gone forever. Now that the 401 are working again, the money starts building on whatever the present value is. The losses are long gone. For many of us, it was like losing 20 years of our life if the previous 401K money was put in over the previous 20 years. Same with house equity. Why can't you see that? It is important you see this to understand just how bad it all really was. If you want to go ''back'' to where the blame goes, you need to go back beyond Bush Jr and Sr. You have to go back to Carter and Clinton. Bush, in order to appease the liberals let a lot of practices stand he should have stopped...but he was too moderate. We need a harsh, tough businessman in the White House. The economic problems are so intense, the days of even ''considering'' liberal answers to these problem is long gone. Frankly, I don't see how Romney can fix anything in 4 years either, but Obama has to go. He had his chance. We can't let ''any'' President have a second term anymore unless he produces more progress his first term. I think we need Gort, the robot, from The Day The Eareth Stood Still, to show up and zap away a few bad people...all over the world, and from many different religious/politcal stances.

uh...''the make-up of a city''...??? We here in Pinellas country, by anyone's definition, are about as diverse as anyplace in the country. The way I look at it...is when you see a lot of races other than black at Obama's politiacal rally's..it demonstrates the non-black communities willingness to overlook race.

Afterall, there are few non-blacks who have not voted for someone , for some postion, that was of another ethnicity. But I am not sure you can say that many blacks ''will even consider'' voting for a white person if there is a black choice. They don't care about the person stances on issues, his experience, etc, etc...if he is black...they will vote for him. Obama proved that. There was no way, considering his experience, that Obama should have ever won. The Democratic Party correctly assumed the black vote would get him the win. They were right. The question now is whether many blacks are taking a closer look at Obama now...and saying this: ''we want a black man as Prez, but not Obama''. If they decide that, then our country is back on the road to progress not only financially again...but also racially.

When you barely see ''a single black person'' at the Romneyy rally, it makes me wonder just which race of people seems to be the biggest racist in today's world?Say what you want...but it was ''very odd'' the obviously absense of black people at the Romeny rally. It was very, very odd. For them to view Romney as someone who will not help blacks is silly.

The loss of money on our 401K was something we have dealt with, just like selling our house for 75% of what we could have got 3 years ago is. On a good note, the housing values ''here'' were so low compared to where we moved from in Kansas...that we were still able to buy a home here. It is not nearly as nice of a home, and it most definitely is not in as good of a neighborhood. We are not ''stuck up'', though...and the diversity here we are surrounding by is a somewhat welcome change. We have blended in very easily here. South St Pete, and Gulfport...and the surrounding areas are ''so much fun''...and there is ''so much to do here, free and otherwise''...and the climate is like paradise....that we are very content with how things turned out. We love it here. That said...it obviously would have been better to have gotten 75% more out of the house we sold in Kansas, and our 401K. The plans of having a canal home, caged pool, etc...did not work out. But...we ''are'' here...and I am breathing a sigh of relief that despite all the losses...we still got here. Been here just under 6 months now. Considering it was the 2nd wettest summer on record and considered a hot summer...we made it through all that just fine. It's actually hotter and nearly as humid in the part of Kansas we moved from. Now...we welcome this marvelous fall, winter, and spring that we sold everyting dear to us, and our lifelong roots of ''many'' years in Kansas for.

@"Samuel Clemens" Since you didn't "sign the social contract", please consider moving to a place without one. Somalia comes to mind as a small (no) government paradise just for those of you who can make it on your own with no support, no safety nets but lots of guns. If you think you are tired of having your money "stolen", just imagine how those of us who opposed the stupid trillion $ war of choice in Iraq felt. However, this is a trade--off we make for choosing to live in a democracy. It must be lonely to expect to always get your way and to never put up with other people's ideas-- or needs.

Samuel, In defense of Lynda: I am not a total supporter of Planned Parenthood. I do not support abortion under ''any'' circumstance. I personally don't see how ''anyone'' can support late term abortions, and Planned Parenthood would be doing themselve great justice and have more supporters if they stopped supporting late term abortions. I also have issues with PP helping many who could be paying for help themselves, rather than have tax money pay it. It's just another avenue of possible ''aid fraud''. What is wrong with ''any'' organization drawing a line ''somewhere''?? I am open to understanding all other abortions, but late term seem like murder to me. Of course, many would argue the same for all of them. My line is not drawn that strictt..but late terms ones...''no''. That said, like wih ''any'' organization...the participants only work there and don't make policy. PP does many good things, and if Lynda workd for them, then she is obviously someone who cares. Fault PP, but don't fault Lynda. Lynda is one of the people here you can ''agree to disagree'' with, and still walk away as friends. Her heart always means no harm.

Rollo. I'm GOP also, but don't bunch yourself with all of us. Your comments to Lynda are out of line. What's really bad is that it sounds as if you know her. She is a stranger to me, but your talk of her is horrible. You shame The Gulfport Patch. Not sure what it is about Gulfport and how the dirty laundry tactic seems to always, or often, be brought out. Why does someone like you take the lame road of attacking a person's personal privacy in the midst on a publicly discuused blog on a topic that has nothing to do with the commentator? To do so demostrates some of the most unkind human display of manners I have ever witnessed in my long life. Seems like all many want to do during the course of a healthy blog discussion is pull crud out of the blue and trash people. For example...from past blogs...like telling about how someone was busted for smoking pot, shoplifting, dog poop on a boat, etc, etc...the list is mindlessly long. In blogs there really are no set rules, other than the ones The Patch has...but human decency ''does'' have unwritten rules....and this talk you have thrown out insulting Lynda is ruthless...and it is foul. Anyone can play dirty, but only dirty people do it. Please don't talk like that about people in the same context of calling yourself a Republican. You're an embarassment. All crowds have them. You are the type of Rebulican that has a note stuck on their back that says ''assume'' on the back of their shirt and does not know why everyone is laughing.

Medicare, Food stamps, Welfare, Unemployment compensations, Section 8, School Lunch Programs, etc, etc...''all'' need to become inslovent or whatever you want to call it. They need to be torn down and started over, but this time with iron-clad security measure to eliminate fraud. Over the years the ''mutitude'' of ''aid'' programs have developed so many loop-holes and opportunity for fraud that the cost of that fraud is beyound the imagination of most people. Eleimante fraud in ''aid'' programs of ''all'' types...and we will not have any economic problems in our country. There are ways to do things that are better. There are ways to do ''aid'' programs where fraud is practically nill. The list I started of avenues for ''aid fraud'' is so long It would take pages and pages to list all of them. It no wonder that remaining poor is often the best choice for many people. Once you have a lifestyle that gets help from a dozen or more things that give you money....why get a job?? Funny, though, how the poor view Obama as ''the one''. I am laughing out loud (lol...) at how many of his supporters are going to feel once the reality hits them that now the IRS is not only going to threaten to make criminals out of them over taxes, but now...also over health insurance. Wait till people start seeing ''those'' deductions on thier paychecks. And we thought there was already ''too much month left at the end of our paychecks' now. Obama will make it worse...he is just getting started.

Hh shut up. You sound suspiciously like a paid blogger, with all your links, etc. Please. If you have something to say..say it. Don't give people links to go see. Every competant computer users knows to click on links is not advised. Besides...you are getting bent out of shape over facts that ''all politicians'' do a lot of. ''Lie'' or whatever you want to call it. Fighting fire with fire is more like it. If one canidate did not lie, he would be eaten by lions. It's a fact we must live with, plain and simple. You spew out many things here, and the truth is...just as many outlandish facts exist about Obama. To weed through your smut..is rather simple. There is only one thing that matters in this election: ''Obama did not produce''.

He failed. ''No'' canidate deserves a second term who does not make dramatic change. If Romney wins, the same will be expected from him..otherwise..it is one and done for him also. That said...whether you are GOP or Dem should not really have much to do with who you vote for. Obama did not earn the right to a second term.

Next.

...pretty bad when you spell your first word wrong...''oh''....sorry...

That's ''watt'' you think? Uh ..ok...but we will know better after the next debate, huh? The 47% is pretty unmovable, though. If not so shameless, it would be admirable. I think Mitt will first have to be more like Bill Clinton, the first black President (not my words)....before the 47% changes. We both know that is not going to happen. It's going to be a tight race again.

It isn't what I think, it is what one of the most respected analysts wrote about at the link that I provided.

oh yeah...I forgot about all those ''respected analysts''. They are about as conveniant as wet toilet paper. Both side have their own ''respected analysts''. Obamas robot zombies wouldn't know what to do without them. Try thinking for your self and looking at our country..and you think ''Obama'' is ''the one''. Send me another reply...I need some toilet paper with ''anal''lysts mumbo jumbo on it.

Obviously, you don't know who Nate Silver is, so I suggest doing a little research to realize how foolish you sound.

I know who Nate Silver is, and it is you who is foolish if you put anyone like him on that high of a platter. So what...it's from him...but that does not invalidate my comments...but, of course...the 47% don't have thoughts of their own. They would vote for Obama even if half the country had been nuked. They can't be swayed. Obama is ''the one'' (barf). You guys are like a cult.

Says the person who's party has been at the butt of this line for longer than I can remember:

"Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line."

Just look how historically, the Democratic votes in congress are mst frequently split, while the Republican vote is almost always 100% falling in line with a predisposed agenda.

The Republican party has always been the lemming party and to be in denial of that easily researched and confirmed fact (if it wan't already common knowledge for you), is to be ignorant of the world that you live in.